2017 International Workshop: Collapse of the Wave Function

Today, collapse theories, together with Bohm's theory and Everett’s theory, are widely regarded as three main realistic alternatives to standard quantum mechanics. However, there have been controversies on the origin, ontology and models of wave-function collapse. The main purpose of this online workshop is to highlight the existing debates and address the controversies.

Another purpose of this workshop is to get some constructive inputs to the forthcoming volume Collapse of the Wave Function: Models, Origin and Ontology (CUP, 2018). The list of contributors includes Daniel Bedingham, Dorje C. Brody, Lajos Diosi, Michaël-Andreas Esfeld, Roman Frigg, Ivette Fuentes, Lane Hughston, Shan Gao, GianCarlo Ghirardi, Nicolas Gisin, Adrian Kent, Peter Lewis, Nicholas Maxwell, Wayne Myrvold, Elias Okon, Oreste Nicrosini, Roland Omnès, Philip Pearle, Roger Penrose, Alberto Rimini, Tejinder P. Singh, Lee Smolin, Daniel Sudarsky, and Roderich Tumulka.

Workshop Date: Tuesday, 30 May, 2017 to Friday, June 30, 2017

Organizers: International Journal of Quantum Foundations

Different from a conventional workshop, this online workshop will be self-organized to a large extent. It means that if a participant has a paper or ideas to present, he or she may log in and create a topic in the workshop forum, which gives a concise introduction to his ideas to be discussed, and which also states the date and time of his two-hour discussion (e.g. in the title of the topic). Then other participants can leave comments beforehand or participate in the discussions by text chat in the forum in the two-hour duration at the time. Every member is welcome to participate in the workshop.

If you have any questions or suggestions about the workshop, please feel free to contact us.

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  1. Avatar of Mark Stuckey
    Mark Stuckey at | |

    Rovelli is correct that psi-ontology versus psi-epistemology is at the heart of the confusion about quantum theory. Psi-ontology has to deal with the measurement problem and collapse of the wave function, as Rovelli points out, while psi-epistemology leaves us asking, “Knowledge ABOUT WHAT?” Likewise, quantum information theory per Griffiths’ post leaves us asking, “Information ABOUT WHAT?” Leifer writes, “If we are to maintain psi-epistemic explanations, then we instead need to look for retrocausal ontological models that posit a deeper reality underlying quantum theory that does not include the quantum state.” Along these lines, Price, Spekkens and Corry have each introduced toy models and we have recently posted a full-fledged model here http://www.ijqf.org/archives/2087. Since the problem has resisted decades of intense study by very intelligent scholars, we are going to have to seriously consider more radical approaches than have thus far received attention in the foundations community. So, in summary, the biggest problem facing quantum foundations is an unwillingness to venture outside a comfort zone.

  2. Ruth Kastner
    Ruth Kastner at | |

    I agree that we have to go outside our comfort zone, but I respectfully disagree that psi-epistemic models constitute the correct sacrifice of our comfort. The possibilist transactional interpretation or PTI is a psi-ontic model that calls on us to sacrifice our tenaciously held and yet unexamined assumption that all of reality must be encompassed by spacetime. As I've argued in the literature and in my CUP book, the most natural and uncluttered approach to solving the riddles of QM is to simply admit that it's describing sub-empirical, extra-spatiotemporal processes. No new formal structures (hidden variables) are required for this account.
    I have argued in the literature that PTI solves the measurement problem by giving a rigorous physical account of what constitutes 'measurement'--i.e., it provides a physical referent for von Neumann's 'Process 1' transition from a pure to a mixed state. Then 'collapse' is the process (via a form of spontaneous symmetry breaking) by which spacetime events are created; that is why collapse is not a spacetime process, and why it defies a causal, mechanistic explanation. (In that aspect, PTI agrees with RBW that there is fundamental acausality at the root of the quantum-to-classical transition.)
    Remember that Bohr himself said that quantum process "[transcend] the frame of space and time" (Jammer 1993, 189). That doesn't mean they aren't real. They are just not spacetime processes. Of course, Bohr assumed that we could not or should not talk about things that are not in spacetime. But why not? Heisenberg also proposed 'potentia'.
    Is the idea that one could actually give a physically grounded, observer-independent solution to the measurement problem considered suspect because it has resisted solution for so long? That would be a shame. All one needs to do is take seriously the idea that absorption is a real physical process (i.e. the direct-action picture of fields). And absorption is not a primitive notion in PTI; it is rigorously defined at the relativistic level. (An extra dividend of the direct-action approach is a solution to the problem of Haag's Thm, see my recent paper in the 2nd issue of IJQF.)

    1. Avatar of Mark Stuckey
      Mark Stuckey at | |

      PTI certainly qualifies as "outside our comfort zone!" I did not mean to imply otherwise. [RBW is itself a form of direct action, so we took the liberty of referencing your IJQF paper for that in http://www.ijqf.org/archives/2087. Have you yet extrapolated PTI's implications for physics? I would like to see a PTI approach to quantum gravity, for example.

  3. Avatar of jacksarfatti
    jacksarfatti at | |

    Bohm's original pilot-wave theory from around 1953 really does away with all the confusion surrounding collapse, the cut etc of Bohr's Copenhagen interpretations and its spin-offs including John Cramer's TI with "actualization" replacing "collapse".
    Bohm's version is completely ontological. Antony Valentini has one strategy for getting beyond the Born probability rule to the new post-quantum realm of signaling entanglement. Rod Sutherland has also applied what is essentially Yakir Aharonov's "weak measurement" using Wheeler-Feynman inspired advanced and retarded quantum information fields to get a retro-causal version of Bohm's pilot wave - particle duality completely consistent with the global Lorentz group symmetry of special relativity. There is no need for a preferred frame of reference hidden by the statistical noise inherent in the Born rule. In other words, Abner Shimony's "passion at a distance" need no longer be invoked. We do not even need to think of configuration space for entangled quantum systems as anything more than a convenient short-hand tool - not as a fundamental ontological structure.

  4. Avatar of jacksarfatti
    jacksarfatti at | |

    Some references to what I alluded to above:





    Antony Valentini http://arxiv.org/find/hep-th/1/au:+Valentini_A/0/1/0/all/0/1

    arXiv:1502.02058 [pdf]
    Naive Quantum Gravity
    Roderick I. Sutherland
    Subjects: General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology (gr-qc); Quantum Physics (quant-ph)

    arXiv:1411.3762 [pdf]
    Lagrangian Formulation for Particle Interpretations of Quantum Mechanics
    Roderick I. Sutherland
    Subjects: Quantum Physics (quant-ph)
    arXiv:quant-ph/0601095 [pdf]

    Causally Symmetric Bohm Model
    Rod Sutherland
    Comments: 35 pages, 5 figures, new sections 12 and 13 added
    Subjects: Quantum Physics (quant-ph)

    Free Will and Retrocausality in the Quantum World http://prce.hu/centre_for_time/jtf/retro.html

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