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  1. Avatar of jacksarfatti
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    Ruth Kastner wrote on August 21, 2016 in a discussion forum arising out of the AAAS June 15-16 Retrocausality III Workshop at the University of San Diego
    e.g. https://vimeo.com/171013596
    https://vimeo.com/171178181 (Rod Sutherland)

    "However as Jack has pointed out, this involved violation of the Born Rule, and as I've pointed out, there would be in-principle empirically observable violations of Maxwell's eqs if such violations involve coherent field states. This could serve as a test of Jack's model, so I think he should embrace those predictions."

    to which I replied:

    The Glauber coherent states defined here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherent_states

    do not exist without the Born rule.

    This is the problem with your argument.

    The real problem here is to find the solution for

    post-quantum coherent “Frohlich"-? states ;-)

    in which Sutherland’s complete post-quantum Lagrangian is used prior to his taking the quantum limit where he integrates over the final destiny <f| states and ad hoc inserts the Born rule as the weighting factor in his integral

    i.e. P(f|i) = ||^2 in his integral

    This procedure reduces the non-unitary nonlinear operator post-quantum Aharonov weak measurement Lagrangian to the linear operator unitary quantum evolution using only the retarded forward in time |i> evolution that Henry Stapp mistakenly thinks he can explain consciousness with.

    Henry Stapp also contradicts himself because any biasing of the Born rule is a direct violation of the core principle of orthodox quantum theory.

    That said

    Post-quantum Frohlich coherent states limit to quantum Glauber coherent states when Sutherland’s action-reaction Lagrangian is forced to zero.

    However, Ruth does have a point that in living matter it is the post-quantum Frohlich coherent states that should exist.

    There will be no problem with energy conservation as Sutherland proves quite generally.

    The coherent state obeys

    a|z> = z|z>

    a is the boson destruction operator

    z is the complex number coherent amplitude and phase like in ordinary classical electrical engineering in a given mode of the boson harmonic oscillator

    where

    da/dt = [H,a]

    H = Hermitian operator for the “energy”

    However in post-quantum theory

    da’/dt = [H’,a’]

    H’ is now a non-Hermitian nonlinear Aharonov weak measurement operator on the advanced destiny Hilbert spaces.

    This is a whole new mathematics that must be developed.

    I am sure the pure mathematicians have already done it somewhere in the literature.

  2. Avatar of jacksarfatti
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    Typo correction

    . P(f|i) = ||^2 in his integral

    should be

    . P(f|i) = ||^2 in his integral

  3. Avatar of jacksarfatti
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    Sorry it's the bracket symbol not showing up - let me try again

    Typo correction

    . P(f|i) = ||^2 in his integral

    should be

    . P(f|i) = |(f|i)|^2 in his integral

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